5 Aug 2012

superficial miracles as months....

When a woman conceives, at the point she will have the soul in her solely body ...........Pregnancy
1st month - kalil [shukla+ shonith]
2nd month - kathin [shirotpatti]
3rd month - ankur [avayava]
4th month - garbh vriddhi [asthi etc]
5th month - charmotpatti
6th month - angaj [roma loma nakha]
7th month - chaitanya [ jeevotpatti ,gyanendriya]
8th month - ashnodwega [matru ahara shvasat ,shisu dehapushti]
9th month prasavodwega [sarvanga sampurna]
10th month prasava kala [ birth and agyana ]
 
Shastras prescribe that when we are in pleasure ,we must think it is due to ashirwad of the elders and guru [apart from good deeds, which obviously we have not done independently] ,when in grief we must think God has accorded bad days to wash off our sins.
We are always made to suffer less than the committed sins [God is merciful] without doubt.
Heavenly bodies don't invade impure bodies. But inferior beings do invade the bodies.......
 
krishnarpanamastu

santanam

"satputra praptyartham " should be enough because a satputra is one who gets all the ancestors towards heaven.
We get sons as per our yogyata. Except Kashyap/swayambhu manu none has begot Lord as son .
Nonethless you can still say it this way ,
"yadvat Dashrathaye tadvat satputra prapthyartham"
 
when time permits further will try to digest this santana gopala manthra discussion.and also on .manthra getting and who got   kanya santanam in purana itihaas on performing homam........

Body

When a person dies, when does the soul leave the body? --> Is it immediate and does the soul enter another yoni immediately?
  At no point soul is bodyless. it aquires different bodies in different circumstances. Death is parting of human body. after parting immidiately it acquires preta yoni.but since daha samskara would not have been done ,it is held by yamadutas. immedately after death , it is taken to yamapuri ,there a judgement is passed onto its karmas. The time taken for this is the delay in completing samskara for the mrut deha.
once the soul is brought back from the yamapuri ,and samskara is over[burning] , it is left free to roam in the premises of its death among family members.
here it is of the size of the thumb , with everyday food given to it during ten days it acquires shape and size a foot everyday. thus during this period it evalvates the emotions of near and dears. and tries to cut attachments , garud purana is mainly for that. After 13th day it starts its journey towards its abode [as decided in yamapuri] .this is a year long journey.here it acquires vayu prachur yoni.
IN swarga it acquies sukhamaya deha. in naraka it acquires Dukhamaya deha ....
In all difrent places have different yonis , wherever it goes it takes on that body.

Ravana as brahmana

Why is Ravana considered a Brahmana? Isn't he the son of Kekasi who is a Rakshasa stree? (I heard that the child gets the varna of the mother). For instance, in MahaBharata, while Dritharashtra and Pandu are both considered Kshatriyas because of being born to Ambika and Ambalika, Vidura is considered a Sudra because he is born to a Dasi.

On a similar note, I am also confused about the varna of Sri Vyasa Bhagavan. Since he is born to Satyavati (Matsya Gandhi), isn't he supposed to be Sudra? But he is considered a Brahmana.

Interesting query ,but the assumptions on which question is raised is faulty.
 
1.Bramhanas are there in every types of species, rakshasas , devatas,manushya,sarpa etc. example vasuki,shesha are bramhana , takshak is kshatriya etc.among sarpas, Brahaspati is bramhana, rudra is kshatriya,etc,
kekasi is daugther of Maya .
2. when father and mother are of different castes ,son born belongs to neither father's nor mothers' caste but to anoher caste altogther.

like bramhana father sudra mother gives Parasava ,bramhana father and vaishya mother gives ambashta ,vaishya father and bramhana mother gives vaidehika etc. Thus there are many castes.
3. many types of sons are there according to dharma aurasa,dattaka,kritrim etc
4.when x bear a son from somebody else's wife ,its still their child ,of their caste .noy mr X's caste.
5.So VYASA 's son in ambika and ambalika were still kshatriyas and kuruvanshi not vashishta vanshi.
6.Dasi was not married hence vidura was parasava not sudra. When either of mixed parents are sudra, no upanayana samskara is carried out , for all others upnayana is carried out.
7.But when kshatriya mother marries bramhana father , he is murdhavastika ,but he can lead life either as bramhin or kshatriya as per his liking. Parashurama leads bramhin life but Drupad though from mudgal lineage leads Kshatriya life.
8.Satyavati was born to a kshatriya King ,his semen was swallowed by a fish.
Reference is manusmriti ,almost all puranas talk about varnashrama dharma.
for details of castes plz visit ITIHASS THE BOOK OF CASTES DESCRIPTION..
 
but if u want to read mor interested to explore yourself in this topic goahead...... as i heard and read holy book of hindus according to kaliyug...the ppl knwoledge pouring extrem to and forgetting the shastras which has got lil value to all humans now....sorry to say that..
 
Sudras were not ill treated at any point of time prior to kaliyug.
As the varaha /padma purana says , Many rakshasa take birth in kaliyug in brahmana castes , it is these who ill treated the sudras.
God exists in everyone he alone directs all the soul. So God in every soul has to be addressed as laid down by shastras. But upasana of God is prescribed only in the god as present in agni, cow, tulasi, bramhins, idols in the temple.etc. God though present in a dog , insects also , we dont pray Him there. Neither we pray him in kshatriya etc.
Then prayer to God in these bodies is represented by taking care of these. when you take care of a child , god in it is happy, when serve a old man, god in him is prayed, similarly when you feed the animals , god in it is pleased.

there are different form of pleasing God , you cannot apply same yardstick everywhere.
There is no shastra where sudra should be oppresed, infact being an inteligent dependent entity he is supposed to be taken care of by the society .
The body of sudra is inherently incapable of staying away from hunger , fasting, penace and hence strict rules of living are exempted for him.
( god is merciful, he gets all the punya by just serving one who does lots of punya by severe austereties)
Now a temple is popular because , God present in idol grants wishes , he can do so as long as there is sannidhi in this idol.
sannidhi is greater with greater austerities. And since temple has just become a place of pilgrimage, tourist spot , sannidhi no longer exists and also wishes are definitely granted ,it has become a random phenomena,hence now allowing everyone
 
 
krishnarpanamastu.

bhojanasalas

In certain temples, other castes are not allowed into Bhojan Salas (exclusively for Brahmins). If all Chaturvarnas are children of God, why this distinction.
 
Bhojan sala question was very interesting,
asper my knowledge ...
 
we share papa of those whom we share clothes money and food.
eating together also entiles us to share sins of others.
we know people suffer because of sins.
A foriegner is known sinner , sin is their way of life.[drinking,free sexuality ,cow slaughter etc are allowed in those countries , and they find nothing wrong with it, for us it is sin, which we are afraid of ]
this is known as panktidooshan (it is far more severe form of papa, according to manusmriti)
to avoid a debate on all these ,people eat alone.

karma

In my post latest , I have mentioned about "svavarnaashramochita karma " .

This is a very interesting topic . It seems absurd as today almost karma or occupation are no longer caste based . Varna based .
Ashram dharma has also dwindled . In such scenario why the saints are still insisting on swavarnashramochit vyayahar karma , and attribute it to Lord and not other karmas .

This point becomes more pronounced when reading GEETA intensely . GEETA is full of reference to varna and ashrama .

what is the route of Varna and ashrama dharma ? why is it necessary ? what is its importance ?

To a general person , a common man it makes no sense . as it comes across as a common distribution of work in the society . Later turned into hype .

But a when discussed from spiritual point of view its importance oozes out ! let's examine !

Geeta strongly stresses that KArma should be done without desires !

SO i take these words seriously as KRISHNA instructs me to do so.
SO next moment I am desire less . so what's next . WHy should I do any work . I have no desires . I dont intend to earn money ! I dont desire to Protect the kinsmen ! I dont desire to serve others as well . I dont desire to appease dieties , as I dont desire boons ! I dont desire longevity as I have no desire to live !

So now AM I right ? Whatever I am prompted to do is desire , but Lord says no desires . so what should be my motivation ?

Lord Krishna says your motivation should be to appease me !
SO what should I do to appease/please you ? How should I know it ! where can i get these instructions ! oh Lord you are not visible , everybody else asks to do something for his own selfish end .
EVerywhere is desire ruling ! How can I stay away from desire and yet attain your grace and Please you .

The answer is I cannot just anything I desire as my selfish end and say oh Lord be Pleased with IT !
SO Lord has set the VArna and ashrama Dharma and instructed that adherence to this will please him . SO one need not sit quiet and waste time pondering over what is right or wrong , but accomplish what is ordained as his duties according to birth and age.

Such karma only pleases LORD

caste

1. Are people usually born in the same family again? is it true that in third generation families are re-untied again?

2.If someone has been born a i.e Hindu and a certain caste, does that mean they have been previously and will be born in the future as that same religion and caste?
 
lil on to topic now firstly... Are people born in ........
Birth in a family is due to runaanubandha, if you owe something to someone then you become a family in the next birth . but we take series of births to exhaust some previous punys , immediATE NEXT BIRTHS ARE NOT ON ACCOUNT EXACT PREVIOS BIRTH KARMA , IT COMES OUT OF VERY OLD KARMA. so need not be born in same family again.

a half day upavasa[fast ] entitles one to stay in swarga for 1000 years ,then how can one reunite in just thrid generation say 100 years later. this can only happen if one has done karma suited only for enjoying on earth and not a single karma to either go to swarga or narak.
chances are bleak , only people of arctic region are supposedly of this type.

q2.people's caste and religion keeps changing as per karma .
one achieves moksha only after becoming a bramhin and sanyasa after going through series of births through all the castes and animal births.
so after acquiring human birth one must stop behaving like animals and try retain the birth in next cycle also.

When Vayu came down to earth as monkey all the devatas were born as monkeys . tretayuga
when vayu came down as Kshatriya [Bheema]all devtas came down to serve him as kshatriyas. dwaparyuga
next in kaliyuga Vayu came down as Bramhin , all devatas came down as bramhins........(eg:Raghavendraswamy (madhwas) as brahmin)