"He is not friend whose anger inspires fear, or who is to be waited upon with fear. He, however, on whom one can repose confidence as on a father, is a true friend. Other friendships are nominal connection. He that bears himself as a friend, even though unconnected by birth of blood, is a true friend, a real refuge, and a protector."
19 Jul 2012
Little added to digest
Questions relating to Na Aham Kartha Hari Hi Kartha:
1. If Shri Hari is making us do every thing in our life, how can one explain bad things that people do.
2. If a soul is already predestined to be Tamasic or Rajasic, what is a person's motivation to better himself. Are the doors of heaven permanently closed to non-satvic souls?
Souls are reflections of the God. jeeva has gnyana anandmaya sharira (swaroop deha). Tamasic souls have swaroop deha of agnyana ,dukhamaya etc. rajasic have mixed (sukh dukha mishra deha)
The charachteristics of soul are inherent , neither created nor destroyed, even God does not create them. If He Created then He will have dosha of Partiality (nairghrunya).God is full of good qualities only.
Kali is the neechatineecha among souls. He has a quality of being present everywhere ,see everything.
He is also under the control of Narayana and Mukhyaprana.
For tamasic souls mere circumstantial push is enough to commit sin, their natural characteristic spring up. Hence God creates such atmosphere for them, ( eg. Budhha giving anti vedic sermon to demons).
For rajasik souls , majority plays important they swing as per the situation, if world sings spirituality tine all these become spiritual, when world is taken over by monsters , these start sinning and siding with demons/antiGod
Sattvic however errs by double motivation only, one from inside by (Daitya avesha) second by simultaneous external influence (sahavasa) [eg manthara to kaikeyi, karna-suyodhana].
Thus all bad things in the world are primarily carried out by the Kali and his followers.
Kali is under Narayana (he does not act independently but that is his dwesha sadhana).
All good is carried out exclusivesly by Mukhya prana .
To sin is to hate God , that leads to hell , Following Dharma and bhakti leads to Moksha , heaven and earth are for intermediaries.
2. If tamasic and rajasic are predestined ,what is motivation for betterment?
even God does not want them strive for betterment, because it is not their nature, they by nature seek unhappiness.
However you nourish a neem tree with milk , does it bear sweet fruit?
Can you expect a cool shade from a thorny weed ?
it is only going to prick if you embrace it with love.
Some guys are just confused (rajasik) and they rejoice confusion(udaseena).
[Just interact with a businessman , when even in profit he says ( whats the use of profit there is no charm in business ) in a times of loss he says business mein nafa nukhsaan chalta hi rahta hai) He has a taint of happiness and unhappiness in both the situations. ]rajasik soul.
1. If Shri Hari is making us do every thing in our life, how can one explain bad things that people do.
2. If a soul is already predestined to be Tamasic or Rajasic, what is a person's motivation to better himself. Are the doors of heaven permanently closed to non-satvic souls?
Souls are reflections of the God. jeeva has gnyana anandmaya sharira (swaroop deha). Tamasic souls have swaroop deha of agnyana ,dukhamaya etc. rajasic have mixed (sukh dukha mishra deha)
The charachteristics of soul are inherent , neither created nor destroyed, even God does not create them. If He Created then He will have dosha of Partiality (nairghrunya).God is full of good qualities only.
Kali is the neechatineecha among souls. He has a quality of being present everywhere ,see everything.
He is also under the control of Narayana and Mukhyaprana.
For tamasic souls mere circumstantial push is enough to commit sin, their natural characteristic spring up. Hence God creates such atmosphere for them, ( eg. Budhha giving anti vedic sermon to demons).
For rajasik souls , majority plays important they swing as per the situation, if world sings spirituality tine all these become spiritual, when world is taken over by monsters , these start sinning and siding with demons/antiGod
Sattvic however errs by double motivation only, one from inside by (Daitya avesha) second by simultaneous external influence (sahavasa) [eg manthara to kaikeyi, karna-suyodhana].
Thus all bad things in the world are primarily carried out by the Kali and his followers.
Kali is under Narayana (he does not act independently but that is his dwesha sadhana).
All good is carried out exclusivesly by Mukhya prana .
To sin is to hate God , that leads to hell , Following Dharma and bhakti leads to Moksha , heaven and earth are for intermediaries.
2. If tamasic and rajasic are predestined ,what is motivation for betterment?
even God does not want them strive for betterment, because it is not their nature, they by nature seek unhappiness.
However you nourish a neem tree with milk , does it bear sweet fruit?
Can you expect a cool shade from a thorny weed ?
it is only going to prick if you embrace it with love.
Some guys are just confused (rajasik) and they rejoice confusion(udaseena).
[Just interact with a businessman , when even in profit he says ( whats the use of profit there is no charm in business ) in a times of loss he says business mein nafa nukhsaan chalta hi rahta hai) He has a taint of happiness and unhappiness in both the situations. ]rajasik soul.
Bhakti digest
Interesting question I have read somewhere that Lord Rama acrued Brahma Hatya Pataka after killing Ravana. Is this true as per Madhwa system? as to why such a belief is prevalent at least in some sections of the Hindu society. .
Before answering the question ..
first let us understand what are patakas?
patakas are aparadhas which immidiately engulfs the perpetrators .he has no recourse but to undergo he malefic effects in due course.[being bodyless for 70000 yugas is the effect of bramha hatya]
bramha hatya,stree hatya,go hatya,surapana,suvarnsteya are all patakas.
Now we should ask are patakas jada or jeeva . since it is jada they cannot by themselves chase the pataki(jeeva). It has to have some kind of agency(living) to activate that. If the agency is detrmined then ,it can safely be concluded that same agency can also help in getting rid of the pataka.
so pataka acts by its agency.
Is Rudra the agency?
Cannot be ,because Siva himself engulfs bramha hatya by cutting Bramha's fifth head and that head sticks to his hand (kapali) ,He gets rid of it through Vishnu Upasana.[Rudra is seen as suffering from this hatya dosha.
So papa punya ,pataka etc are all under the control of Lord Rama himself(Narayana)
Since agency is Narayana himself , pataka cannot touch him ,he is not bound by it.
Also Ravana was killed by the arrows , God kills all bramhins as their longevity is complete ,as mrtyu ( Mrutyu abhimani devta Sri Narsimha) .
During Pralaya Narasimha kills(samhara) Bramha too. So when he does not get bramha hatya by wiping entire creation then killing Ravana cannot get any hatya dosha on him.
Moreover there is no ilustration of Narayana suffering on account of these mass Bramha hatya during pralaya. so single killing of one Ravana Bramhana cannot engulf him.
Many acts of Rama are for [daitya mohana] illusion of demons . this one is also for the same . [It is to give illusion that Rama is just an ordinary man , fearing dosha he undertook remedies and installed a sivalinga.Thus Shiva has relieved Rama of Bramha Hatya,thus he is superior to Rama]
Why does Bramha hatya engulf souls ?
Bramhana is a chala murthy of the Hari. any act of violence against him is like raising hands on the idol of God.[heinous crime]
Secondly we cannot assume the role of regulator towards elders , even if they are wrong, only appropriate authorities are supposed to take action. All these philosophical elements are ingrained in Bramha hatya.
Nonetheless , all papa ,punya are for souls(jeevatma) only indicating their (bandha) from which they are supposed to get Mukti.
They are not for God(Paramatma ),who is independent and always free from doshas(blemishes).
Jada (pataka) can chase jeeva by the will of Parmatma .
Jada by itself is not powerful to chase or cause fear for parmatama.
Nor can it chase jeevatma without the will of Parmatma.
Before answering the question ..
first let us understand what are patakas?
patakas are aparadhas which immidiately engulfs the perpetrators .he has no recourse but to undergo he malefic effects in due course.[being bodyless for 70000 yugas is the effect of bramha hatya]
bramha hatya,stree hatya,go hatya,surapana,suvarnsteya are all patakas.
Now we should ask are patakas jada or jeeva . since it is jada they cannot by themselves chase the pataki(jeeva). It has to have some kind of agency(living) to activate that. If the agency is detrmined then ,it can safely be concluded that same agency can also help in getting rid of the pataka.
so pataka acts by its agency.
Is Rudra the agency?
Cannot be ,because Siva himself engulfs bramha hatya by cutting Bramha's fifth head and that head sticks to his hand (kapali) ,He gets rid of it through Vishnu Upasana.[Rudra is seen as suffering from this hatya dosha.
So papa punya ,pataka etc are all under the control of Lord Rama himself(Narayana)
Since agency is Narayana himself , pataka cannot touch him ,he is not bound by it.
Also Ravana was killed by the arrows , God kills all bramhins as their longevity is complete ,as mrtyu ( Mrutyu abhimani devta Sri Narsimha) .
During Pralaya Narasimha kills(samhara) Bramha too. So when he does not get bramha hatya by wiping entire creation then killing Ravana cannot get any hatya dosha on him.
Moreover there is no ilustration of Narayana suffering on account of these mass Bramha hatya during pralaya. so single killing of one Ravana Bramhana cannot engulf him.
Many acts of Rama are for [daitya mohana] illusion of demons . this one is also for the same . [It is to give illusion that Rama is just an ordinary man , fearing dosha he undertook remedies and installed a sivalinga.Thus Shiva has relieved Rama of Bramha Hatya,thus he is superior to Rama]
Why does Bramha hatya engulf souls ?
Bramhana is a chala murthy of the Hari. any act of violence against him is like raising hands on the idol of God.[heinous crime]
Secondly we cannot assume the role of regulator towards elders , even if they are wrong, only appropriate authorities are supposed to take action. All these philosophical elements are ingrained in Bramha hatya.
Nonetheless , all papa ,punya are for souls(jeevatma) only indicating their (bandha) from which they are supposed to get Mukti.
They are not for God(Paramatma ),who is independent and always free from doshas(blemishes).
Jada (pataka) can chase jeeva by the will of Parmatma .
Jada by itself is not powerful to chase or cause fear for parmatama.
Nor can it chase jeevatma without the will of Parmatma.
5 Jun 2012
real generosity lies is doing something nice to someone who will never findout in his lifetime.
In life gripping relations will definitely die soon..tired of cing the ppl pleasing , comforting..convincing and explaining to people but this tiredness is the shadow of enjoyment..
what puts you on the road is wanting to enjoy and what birngs you home is being in love..
we all make mistakes, experience sadness we all have weakness its all factors of us we the human but these experiences defintely help us to make better life ...
the fruit of the spiritual life gives us..joy kindness goodness faithfulness patience gentleness..
we need sometime to stand feel that we are determined, the belief that makes us to stand on our deserved recognition.
Soul existing qualities which values more in every human- appreciation understanding compassion humility forgiveness valor
when the soul is happy the inner mind is happy only on the constant happening s of outside (external) situation, sorroundings ..then v can understand that soul is dependent only on outside that soul..act of perception kindness teh real beauty stays may b around us..but able to c the inner beauty of our own mind is essential v all have special gift and purpose of this life when blend with talents with service doing to others we experience ecstasy which is goal of goals.....most of our energy goes in doing..things for others devoting themselves to b more concerned ...which timess later makes definitely impatient of mystery..thus the purpose of life to be useful, responsible to be compassionate. in this learning and growing way of life..we are given only handle the mistakes done by us..not to repeat the same..
My granny used to write and chant sree rama jayam as and when ever she used to feel free from her work..daily she had habit of writing the same. One after the other books ...that habit she also taught us we two of her grand children got the habit of writing Sri Ramjayam and she used to tell us this to chant to get concentration and get success in any matter...she used to remind us to write this every morning ..atleast a page daily..I have been doing this several years, i have found solace in it...Recall the lines in Vishnu Sahasranamam:
SRI RAMA RAMETI, RAME RAMEY MANORAME,
SAHASRANAMA TATTULYAM RAMA NAMA VARANANE.
It is said that recitation of this stanza is equal to the merit of chanting the vishnu sahasranama in full.
This litany, whose benefit is incalculable, is contained in the name of Rama alone. It is simple and easy. I would exhort all friends here to follow it.
"Faith in Lord gives faith in life for success with all Lords' grace"
Trikarana Shuddi
dharmam --> Moksham
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Jnana will stand
Let us take this mugham stage-"eeshana rahitha druta" --
now eeshaanam - is aasai - the wantings....(children, dhanam, position...etc.,)
the same explained by Thiruvalluvar in different -Aasai pada pada Thunbamam ; Aasai Vida vida Inbamam
Let us read an instance of a normal person bhakthi towards bagavan to understand this ..
A person went to temple to pray and he was in need of Rs.500/-. He prayed sincerely , continuously infront of deity...at sannidhanam atlast he got what he prayed for..the moment he got 500/- his mind echoed arrey i would have asked more for this amount he got it very easily he felt he would ahve prayed for more...! The person who heard the prayer heard and the person received etc., the same second person also went to bagavan and prayed and [raeyd ..btu unfortunate he did not get anything ! He was lil upset started feeling the jealous in him about the first person receiving the blessing and forgot to pray further and lost the interest towards God...this is lokikam..asuya generated with this small wantings, mind becoming restless in thsi wantings...
Bhagavan well explained these four stages comparison --
1. aartha-the person who is in trouble the moment goes to God and pray and getout of the trouble (sankata harana venkata ramana)
2.
3. Jignyasa-Casual, without any expectation praying god ...knowledge born in minds not only from reading the books ....
4. Jnanicha- Paramaatma mayam Vishwamey.......the whole world belongs to him..(To watch Paramatmain gadi+madhi)
the true bhakthi lies not in rajoguna or tamoguna ..just in satvika the one who feel Ekasmin just the God the paramaatma and his beloved feet....
When we understand this changes we became efficient and will be able to bring changes in others too
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